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(A version of this column, filed for an early April deadline, appears in the June 10 issue of “Firearms News,” formerly “Shotgun News,” on newsstands now.)<\/em><\/p>\n

A regular reader asked why — since I mentioned Donald Trump\u2019s position on gun rights recently — I haven\u2019t mentioned other presidential candidates who might honor the Second Amendment.<\/p>\n

OK.<\/p>\n

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BERNIE SANDERS<\/strong><\/p>\n

Democrat Bernie Sanders hails from Vermont, where concealed-carry is legal without a permit (as required by the Bill of Rights and 14th Amendment, actually.) The Socialist Senator also previously supported the 2005 Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, and has said each state should be allowed to set its own gun policies. So some had hoped he might be on the side of the angels when it comes to gun rights.<\/p>\n

But he\u2019s been running for the Democratic nomination, remember. <\/p>\n

In late January, the New York Daily News reported \u201cPresidential candidate Bernie Sanders, under continuing pressure from Hillary Clinton on his gun control stance, is reversing his position on a controversial bill that would allow firearms manufacturers to be held liable in civil suits after mass shootings.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe Vermont senator\u2019s campaign said Thursday that Sanders would co-sponsor legislation allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearms manufacturers and dealers who sell the weapons to criminals,\u201d The Daily News reported — though of course they really mean \u201csell guns to people who pass the required background checks, if those guns are later used by criminals.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cUnder a 2005 law that Sanders voted for, gun manufacturers and sellers are currently protected from liability lawsuits. Clinton has consistently hammered him on the issue, as support among Democratic lawmakers and President Obama for stricter gun control laws in the U.S. has grown.\u201d one Adam Edelman reported for the New York daily.<\/p>\n

In fact, the sensible \u201cprotection from liability lawsuits\u201d is only if the firearms operate as intended. (You can sue Ford if one of your wheels falls off at high speed, but we don\u2019t sue Ford if one of their products falls into the hands of a drunk driver, do we?) And a majority of Americans now actually oppose any \u201cstricter gun control laws,\u201d though of course the New York newspaper carefully said support has grown only among \u201cDemocratic lawmakers and President Obama.\u201d As though anyone can recall a day when they didn\u2019t want to restrict gun ownership to their own police forces and the Army that shelled Vicksburg.<\/p>\n

In fact, one of Mr. Sanders\u2019 campaign Web sites brags \u201cBernie has voted in favor of a nationwide ban on assault weapons, a nationwide ban on high-capacity magazines of over ten rounds, and nationwide expanded background checks that address unsafe loopholes.\u201d<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t have to go into the long list of one-shot-per-trigger pull hunting and target rifles that these characters would classify as \u201cassault rifles,\u201d do I? Nor deal with the notion that \u201cNo one needs 13 rounds\u201d in their normal, standard, Browning Hi-Power magazine to deal with a home invasion?<\/p>\n

It would have been interesting if Sen. Sanders had responded, \u201cYes, I\u2019m in favor of enforcing the entire Bill of Rights, including the Second and Ninth Amendments, and the rest of my party should join me, if they want to represent anyone beyond New York, Washington, and Rachel Maddow.\u201d But he didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

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GARY JOHNSON<\/strong><\/p>\n

As of this writing, that leaves the two major contenders for this year\u2019s Libertarian presidential nomination — former Republican New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson (who headed that ticket four years ago) and colorful character John McAfee, the now-70-year-old developer of the world\u2019s first commercial anti-virus program, which bore his name until bought out by Intel for a reported $7 billion.<\/p>\n

Gary Johnson was interviewed on the gun issue by David Sheff for Playboy magazine a few years back:<\/p>\n

\u201cWhere do you stand on gun control?\u201d Sheff asked Johnson.<\/p>\n

\u201cI’m one of those who believe the bumper sticker: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns,\u201d Gov. Johnson replied. \u201cCriminals are going to be left with guns. I believe that concealed carry is a way of reducing gun violence.\u201d<\/p>\n

Q: Do you carry a gun?<\/p>\n

\u201cI don’t, and I don’t own a gun, but I’d still just as soon have the concealed carry law. If the guy who is going to hold up a car knows there is the possibility of a concealed weapon, he may think twice. We don’t have that law here.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cBut the statistics show that people don’t use guns to stop crime. They use them to hurt themselves or innocent people,\u201d whined interviewer Sheff, who evidently needs to read not only John Lott\u2019s book More Guns, Less Crime,<\/em><\/a> but also the definitive report by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz in the Fall, 1995 issue of the Northwestern University Law School\u2019s Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, \u201cArmed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense With a Gun.”<\/a> Unless the editors of Playboy actually prefer to promulgate lying propaganda, of course. <\/p>\n

\u201cYeah,\u201d Gov. Johnson replied, \u201cbut there is deterrence in the legality of guns. It’s also part of the Constitution.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThe NRA disagrees with any limits,\u201d said Mr. Sheff, again getting it wrong (is it contagious, or what?), since the NRA generally favors continued enforcement of most current gun control laws, including those requiring background checks. \u201cDo you?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI don’t believe the laws regarding guns are effective,\u201d Mr. Johnson replied. \u201cWe’re allowed to bear arms. It’s part of a free society.\u201d <\/p>\n

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JOHN McAFEE<\/strong><\/p>\n

John McAfee, who in the late 1980s started a small business out of his home that stumbled on the next must-have software \u201capp,\u201d is predictably more entertaining. When computer viruses first originated, you understand, there were no anti-virus programs to protect uses. McAfee and his handful of home-based employees developed a program to block viruses for their own computers. By 1990, he was licensing it to corporations around the world, billing $5 million per year. By 1994, McAfee and his anti-virus software company were valued at $500 million. Intel eventually bought all rights.<\/p>\n

Mr. McAfee lived for a number of years in Belize, where he had several encounters with authorities, who refused to believe he was developing all-natural antibiotics, assuming his laboratory was instead for producing methamphetamine. (It wasn\u2019t. None were found and he was released without being charged after a 2012 raid, though police did kill his dog.) He returned to the United States in 2013, when (he reports) authorities there continued to threaten him with various legal actions unless he agreed to pay them huge bribes.<\/p>\n

On his web site, McAfee comments on the Second Amendment:<\/p>\n

\u201cAn armed society is a polite society. The impetus for most proclamations surrounding gun control are generally mass murders, some involving guns. A little research will uncover the little-known fact that mass murders were virtually unknown prior to 1980.<\/p>\n

\u201cThis fact disturbs me, and it should you, since guns have been prominently owned in this society since the founding of our country, and . . . no sweeping legislation in 1980 or after that radically changed gun ownership laws or rates of gun ownership,\u201d the software pioneer continues. \u201cThis, to a thinking person, without qualification, removes guns as the source of our problem — unless of course guns suddenly achieved the ability to subconsciously tempt their owners to use them in heretofore-unknown ways. If not, then the problem appears to be an increase in violent urgings, stemming from some unknown source deep within the fabric of our society.<\/p>\n

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\u201cThere are many possibilities for this source,\u201d McAfee continues. \u201cIn the 1980s we saw the first wide-scale use of selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (anti-depressants) such as Prozac, Paxil, and others. Hundreds of studies have shown that these anti-depressants have side effects that include violent thoughts. A few minutes of research will tell us that 8 percent of the U.S. is taking anti-depressants, yet more than 30 percent of all mass murderers since 1980 were known to have been taking them. It\u2019s highly suspected that the real number approaches 90 percent. . . . I would begin here if I were looking for a source. . . .<\/p>\n

\u201cIn any case, I do not believe that guns are the problem. On the other hand, Gun Free Zones appear to be a serious problem. Every mass shooting for the past 20 years has occurred in a gun free zone. Where else would someone with a gun who wants to create havoc go? We need armed guards at schools, churches, courthouses and every other place that we now deem \u2018gun- free.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n

So sayeth candidate McAfee. The first four things Mr. McAfee says he\u2019d do after taking office, by the way, are 1) pardon all non-violent marijuana offenders; 2) pardon Edward Snowden and Ross Ulbricht; 3) disband the TSA in its entirety (saving at least $6 billion), and 4) place armed marshals on every commercial flight.<\/p>\n

Vin Suprynowicz, author of \u201cSend in the Waco Killers,\u201d was for 20 years an award-winning editorial writer at the daily Las Vegas Review-Journal, back when that newspaper espoused a smaller-government, libertarian philosophy. His latest novels about the War on Drugs are \u201cThe Testament of James\u201d and \u201cThe Miskatonic Manuscript,\u201d available online. He blogs at www.vinsuprynowicz.com .
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