{"id":562,"date":"2010-07-25T04:14:21","date_gmt":"2010-07-25T11:14:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/vinsuprynowicz.com\/?p=562"},"modified":"2014-10-24T09:13:12","modified_gmt":"2014-10-24T16:13:12","slug":"meet-the-cops-go-home-in-a-box","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vinsuprynowicz.com\/?p=562","title":{"rendered":"Meet the cops, go home in a box"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s been two weeks since three Las Vegas Metro cops shot and killed 38-year-old West Point graduate Erik Scott as he exited a Costco store in the upscale suburb of Summerlin on July 10.<\/p>\n<p>So far, the incident has generated more questions than answers.<\/p>\n<p>If officials lock up the evidence so you can\u2019t get the answers, print the questions.<\/p>\n<p>Erik Scott had a permit; he could legally carry a firearm either open OR concealed.<\/p>\n<p>Any Nevadan can carry a gun openly on the hip, no permit required. It\u2019s a right. Mr. Scott was under no obligation to demonstrate a \u201cneed\u201d to carry his firearms to the store (as some letter-writers have suggested), any more than you must demonstrate a \u201cneed\u201d to go to church more than once a week, if you so choose. 9-1-1 operators called because a Nevadan is carrying a gun in a holster should respond the same way as if someone calls in a free-roaming coyote: &#8220;Just moved here recently, have we? This is an open carry state, dear; get used to it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Nor do I agree with those who would say, if police a shot up a luncheon meeting of the Jaycees or the Rotary Club, that \u201cCops are getting edgy in this town; people are just going to have to be more cautious about how they exercise their right to assemble.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Apparently Mr. Scott, who was shopping with his girlfriend, broke the plastic wrap on a carton of bottled water so he could check to see if the bottles would fit in his backpack. He shouldn\u2019t have done that. But is it a capital crime?<\/p>\n<p>If I go to Costco with a perfectly legal gun in a holster, either concealed or open, even though I never present my weapon or threaten anyone with it, will employees there call the police, report a \u201ccrazy man with a gun,\u201d and have me killed?<\/p>\n<p>Talk about \u201ccustomer relations\u201d! How many front-door ambushes (complete with fake bomb scares to beat the game under the hunters\u2019 guns) do you have to set up to win \u201cemployee of the month\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>Will the 9-1-1 operator closely question such a caller, asking, \u201cWait a minute, this is important: Do you mean there\u2019s a man who\u2019s behaving oddly and he\u2019s brandishing a firearm, threatening people with a firearm? Or do you mean there\u2019s a man who\u2019s behaving oddly, and you\u2019ve noticed he\u2019s carrying a handgun in a holster, which is perfectly legal? This is a real important distinction for me to be able to explain to the officers we\u2019re sending\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>I hope the 9-1-1 operator in the Erik Scott bottled-water killing asked that question; they ought to be trained to ask that question. The Review-Journal has tried to get the recordings of the 9-1-1 calls to find out, but the G-men won\u2019t release them.<\/p>\n<p>I also can\u2019t find the part of the state or U.S. Constitution that says \u201cYou can be killed at any time for failing to obey a policeman\u2019s order,\u201d even though letter-writers keep telling me it\u2019s in there.<\/p>\n<p>Will only one officer give me orders? Or will all three shout conflicting orders in order to confuse me, especially if I was recently in a traffic accident and my doctor has me on painkillers that already make me a little fuzzy, as was reportedly the case with Erik Scott?<\/p>\n<p>Will they have their guns out and leveled at me, at that point? If I point a firearm at someone it\u2019s considered to be a crime, called \u201cassault.\u201d If I shoot a police officer simply because he puts his hand on the butt of his sidearm while it\u2019s still in the holster, I\u2019ll go to prison (at best.) How come cops don\u2019t go to prison if they shoot someone simply for touching a gun? I suppose people will say, \u201cYou\u2019re not in danger if a policeman puts his hand on his gun, because they don\u2019t go around shooting people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Good one.<\/p>\n<p>How many this year, Sheriff Gillespie? Trevor Cole, unarmed, got shot in the head with a combat rifle while kneeling on his bathroom floor with his hands up. The charge? Selling an ounce or two of pot.<\/p>\n<p>Why not arrest him on the street? Why put his nine-month-pregnant girlfriend at risk? Did some sloppy police work allow the author of the warrant to claim Cole had a violent criminal record, when he really didn\u2019t? Was that work done by an officer who\u2019d already shot and killed other suspects, and told stories that didn\u2019t match the physical evidence?<\/p>\n<p>How about if we count people like Ivan Carrillo, an apparent drunk driver killed when his car was rammed by a Metro police cruiser on May 20? Isn\u2019t that a lethal use of force? How come there\u2019s been no coroner\u2019s inquest in that death?<\/p>\n<p>If the police tell me to put my gun down on the ground, and I reach down to remove my holster from my belt or waistband so I can follow that order, will they shoot and kill me for following that order, later explaining they had to shoot me because I didn\u2019t follow one of their other, simultaneous orders &#8212; to put my hands up, to lie down, to do any number of things that can\u2019t all be done at once?We don\u2019t know whether that\u2019s what happened outside the Costco on July 10, because Metro hasn\u2019t released the Costco video disc. Some of it may be shown to a coroner\u2019s jury on Sept. 3, the first day of the long Labor Day holiday weekend, in a little courtroom downtown holding about 46 people.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe. If it isn\u2019t \u201clost or damaged.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Oh, was that gratuitous? I don\u2019t think so. After Officer George Pease killed Henry Rowe by slashing his throat, Metro said tests of both men\u2019s clothing would reveal whether Rowe grabbed the officer\u2019s gun and shot at him in the dark, like officer Pease said. But when they got to the coroner\u2019s inquest, Metro said it hadn\u2019t bothered to have those tests performed, since they would have been \u201ccostly and inconclusive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. Good one. And don\u2019t even get me started on the \u201cjustifiable\u201d killings by Southwest 11\u2019s \u201cBaby\u2019s Daddy Removal Team,\u201d which always seem to cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars apiece when they finally, quietly settle the civil suits. Can I at least have one of the T-shirts? Has Officer Bryan Yant, who most recently notched his gun with Trevor Cole, been issued his?<\/p>\n<p>If I show up for that Sept. 3 inquest, will I find my entrance blocked by two armed bailiffs, maybe even shaved-heads K.P. Ross and Sgt. R. Wright, who will rest their hands on the butts of their Glock .40s and tell me \u201cIt\u2019s not open to the public,\u201d the way they did when I tried to attend the Henry Prendes inquest, in March of 2006?<\/p>\n<p>Why do they not let us in the room, even after we\u2019ve let them disarm us? Why does the hearing master then state for the record that any member of the public is free to come forward with any new evidence &#8212; when they know darn well the bailiffs are turning the public away, telling them \u201cIt\u2019s not open to the public,\u201d even when there are empty seats?<\/p>\n<p>Do they think we\u2019re going to shoot them during the inquest? Isn\u2019t that a bit paranoid? Why don\u2019t they just hold the inquest in a big, 500-seat auditorium or theater, somewhere, and let anyone in?<\/p>\n<p>What are they afraid of, with their carefully arranged dog-and-pony show, presenting only the evidence selected by the government, with no cross examination, and then instructing jurors so they later say they felt they had no choice but a finding of \u201cjustifiable,\u201d even if they believe the officer in question should never be allowed back on the street, as was the case when Bruce Gentner emptied his pistol magazine at John Perrin, armed only with a basketball?<\/p>\n<p>Will it ever be time to tell Metro\u2019s cowboys to go join some other rodeo? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s been two weeks since three Las Vegas Metro cops shot and killed 38-year-old West Point graduate Erik Scott as he exited a Costco store in the upscale suburb of Summerlin on July 10. So far, the incident has generated more questions than answers. 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