Do you really believe they’re going to pay off this debt?

If I invoke the phrase “Greek debt crisis,” do your eyelids start to grow heavy?

Do you somehow find it difficult to summon up a fresh wave of outrage if someone mentions that when Barack Obama’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (better known as the Democratic Tax-Hike Justification Front) convened for its second monthly meeting last week, Congress was already 41 days past its April 15 deadline for passing a budget resolution — scared to death to admit, in an election year and the third year of the Second Great Depression, just how much new debt and spending they intend to crank up?

If these topics fired the American imagination, the most popular prime-time television shows would feature teams of CPAs wiping sweat from their brows as they raced to figure out a tricky tax return on their desktop calculators.
“Go, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, go!”

So let’s try to avoid a page full of decimals and percent signs. Pardon my ballpark figures.

Go watch the federal debt clock at It shows the federal government — your congresscritter and mine — have promised to pay the folks who bought U.S. bonds $13 trillion which they don’t have. Your personal share — the amount your congresscritter and mine promised to squeeze out of you to pay off those IOUs, if you’re a taxpayer — is about $117,000. Make that $180,000 when all government debt is included.

Total United States unfunded liabilities? I believe that says $108 trillion.

With average family income at about $62,000, can you ever pay that off?

Someday soon, people are going to stop loaning money to these Pharoahs of Fakery, these Ptolemies on the Potomac — or else Washington’s creditors are going to start demanding some serious collateral for their loans, that won’t be politically popular. Like, maybe, the Hawaiian Islands.

The Poor Soul tries to envision a solution.

“Gee, Vin. We have to keep paying interest on the debt, and we have to keep meeting our obligations to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, since those are moral commitments. Unfortunately, when you add all those up, you get more than half the current federal budget. So if we cut everything else — the armed forces, farm subsidies, federal courthouses, everything — by two thirds, that’s a one-third cut in the federal budget. Do that, and stop borrowing — an end to borrowing is the first step if we really want to start paying down the debt — and we can at least cut taxes by one third. That’s a good start.”

No it isn’t. If you stop borrowing, under this keep-on-spending scenario, you have to raise taxes by enough to replace the cash-flow that was previously covered by your borrowing. Taxes would remain essentially the same, in exchange for which people would get a lot less in government “services.” How long would such an “austerity regime” be tolerated? It’s a political non-starter, which is why the kleptocrats keep not starting.

Besides, actually paying down the government debt is a terrible idea. Have you ever paid off a credit card? Suddenly your mailbox is full of new credit offers: “Take out a new home equity loan to fund all those overdue home repairs, buy your new dream boat or car, and we’ll throw in a free toaster! Pay nothing for a full year!”

If our hypothetical conservative/libertarian austerity administration took over, gutted all those federal “services” people line up for (Cue the weeping and wailing about “slashing education,” “savaging health care,” “old people dying in the gutters,” etc.) and actually started paying down the debt, how long would it be before the socialists returned to power, only to find they could now borrow even more, because (thanks to our well-intentioned but idiotic efforts) the U.S. of A. would actually now have a better credit rating?

No, if you want to get the U.S. government off the borrow-and-spend treadmill, there’s only one answer: default.

You only have to win one election, at which point you declare Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid all bankrupt and closed; in default. You believed the promises of those lying politicians? Your problem.

You own U.S. bonds? Tough. The politicians lied when they said they had the power to make succeeding generations pay their debts; we’re defaulting. You don’t get another cent.

Presto: Half of those “mandatory” federal expenditures are gone, overnight. NOW slice everything else by two thirds (that’s a “net” figure — the “Department of Agriculture,” the “War on Drugs” and the “Firearms and Explosives” tentacles of the BATFE would immdiately be reduced to zero, of course), and you’ve reduced both federal expenditures AND FEDERAL TAXES by 80 percent.

But here’s the best part. Four, six, eight years later the pendulum swings, as it always does, and the socialists come back to power. They go back to the folks who used to loan money to Uncle Sam, saying, “Hi, Remember us? We’re the compassionate progressive collectivist redistributionists, and we’re back. We’d like to borrow a few billion again to re-animate some of these great federal programs that our evil predecessors nailed into coffins and buried out back.”

“Loan you money? You just defaulted. Your credit rating is zero.”

“No, no, no. That was the evil conservative/libertarians. They’re gone now.”

“Yeah, and in four years they could be back, and default on your debts all over again. Take a hike.”

A massive federal default would PREVENT THE REDISTRIBUTIONIST THIEVES from running Washington City into debt again, for as much as 50 years.

Since Democrats say they’re in favor of “Pay as You Go,” and this is the only way to REALLY impose “Pay As You Go,” how can they object?

Start asking the candidates: “Would you vote to default on the federal debt? Why not? The only other solution is to hyperinflate our way out of it, which amounts to the same thing but renders my dollar-denominated savings worthless in the process.

“I don’t remember signing anything that said I’d pay all the debts run up by these crooked politicians, while they all retire to a nice ranch. THEY swore an oath to obey a Constitution that authorizes only a tiny portion of this spending. I don’t have $117,000, anyway. If every taxpayer sold their house to raise $117,000, who would buy all the houses? Isn’t a default the only way to end the borrowing and the deficit spending for good? Why would that be bad?”

9 Comments to “Do you really believe they’re going to pay off this debt?”

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  3. TheGrayBeard Says:

    I don’t think they intend to pay off the debt in any sense. Ben Bernanke once said, “people know that inflation erodes the real value of the government’s debt and, therefore, that it is in the interest of the government to create some inflation.” I think they may intend a period of hyperinflation to devalue the currency.

    Maybe this creates the atmosphere that enables a default, and maybe they just print the money owed to China/whomever on a roll of Charmin (same difference).

    I came across a quote from Helicopter Ben the other day that reveals more insight into his “thought” processes. In 1999, he wrote: “A central bank can… extend loans to depositories, other financial intermediaries, or firms and households…. ” Households?? If the Fed directly depositing money into everyone’s accounts isn’t inflating and devaluing the currency, what is?

    The guy has not had an original thought since his graduate school work on the depression, which means even more years since he had a correct original thought.

  4. liberranter Says:

    Default will happen anyway when (not “if” – WHEN) the dollar implodes.

  5. Caleb Says:

    Americans need to learn 1 simple equation:
    debt = slavery
    Until a majority understand this, we will continue to fit our children with shackles.
    The reckoning will be when our children realize this…

  6. Running2Win Says:

    What would “a day in the life of the average American family” look like when our government defaults?

  7. Bruce D Says:

    I agree with you Vin. Yes, as the previous person said the dollar will implode. Then we’re back to silver and gold, something harder to inflate. When I was 5 I could buy a coke with 7 cents (silver coin), now, 45 years later with 7 cents of that same silver coin I could STILL buy a coke with it. Meanwhile the value of the “dollar” has fallen in relationship to a coke from 7 cents to a buck. The dollar is imploding now. Greece is not an isolated incident, it’s just part of the same ponzi scheme. If the dollar implodes people will go back to helping each other and getting on with it and with a little luck, tell this level of government to take a hike.

  8. Tatiana Covington Says:

    “Positive feedback makes any system oscillate out of control.”–Heinlein

  9. olde reb Says:

    What you have in your pocket is a Note (debt obligation) of the Federal Reserve (not of the government). It is created when the government gives the FRS a Treasury security. The security creates a book-entry credit [which is spent by the government] with the FR promising (historically) to give you [actually, the recipient of the government’s payment which has been transferred to you] gold or silver, then lawful money, and it is now a legal tender (what you got is what you get). The T security [auctioned by the Fed, touted to be sold by the US Treasury] creates the principal of a credit-creation (touted as a ‘loan’) but the interest demanded by the security is never created. It is impossible to culminate the contract; i.e., pay off the National Debt.. An impossible contract is an act of fraud. Any contract based upon fraud is void from its inception.

    More on the Ponzi scheme fraud/embezzlement is available at